[2022] NewSim Feedback

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Please reply to this thread with any bugs, errors, or strange occurrences that you find in games during the 2022 season. Unfortunately those issues will be final, as we currently do not make changes to the simulation midseason unless absolutely necessary. We will use this thread as a sort of "checklist" to attempt to complete for the next season.

 

For anything urgent please ping one of the admins.

[Bundy]

Preseason Week 1

 

 

29 0 4 1:5 SEA N/A N/A 35 SEA Kickoff K Robert Pearson kicks for 57 yards. Fielded at the 8 yardline by RB Le'Veon CamineroRB Le'Veon Caminero returns the ball 19 yards. Tackled by CB Jason Bumbarger.

29 0 4 0:55 MIN 1 10 27 MIN Pass QB Christian Sinnock incomplete. Intended for WR Alex Williams III. PENALTY: Neutral Zone Infraction DT Timothy Jeffcoat

29 0 4 0:33 MIN 1 5 32 MIN Run RB Cooper McGough carries for 7 yards. Ran out of bounds.

29 0 4 0:13 SEA 1 10 39 MIN Pass QB Luke Trahan intercepted by ILB Jayson Grimm returned to 0 yards from the LOS. intended for RB Yacksel Knox.

29 0 4 0:6 MIN 1 10 39 MIN Pass QB Christian Sinnock intercepted by SS Daryl Dillon returned to -19 yards from the LOS. intended for WR Oswaldo Urrutia.

 

 

Seattle randomly got the ball after my 1st and 5, 7 yard run

[PoopyRhinoPickle]

0	3	1	5:54	CHI	2	10	35 CHI	Run	RB Ryan Wilson carries for -6 yards. Tackled by ILB Gordon Wilburn.
0	3	1	5:16	CHI	3	16	29 CHI	Pass	QB Gerald Lewis is sacked by DE Stephen Brouillet for -29 yards. . Safety.
2	3	1	5:6	CHI	N/A	N/A	35 CHI	Kickoff	K Francis Barmore kicks for 57 yards. Fielded at the 8 yardline by WR Matt BrownWR Matt Brown returns the ball 20 yards. Tackled by DE Trea Taumoepenu.

 

Sacked for -29 yards is possible but unlikely. Also:

 

9	13	4	0:7	DET	2	9	27 DET	Pass	QB Randall Hansen incomplete. Intended for WR Edwin Chabolla.
9	13	4	0:5	DET	3	9	27 DET	Pass	QB Randall Hansen incomplete. Intended for RB David Perrigin.

 

The final was 13-9 when the box score said:

 

Team	Coach	Offensive Scheme	Defensive Scheme	1st Q	2nd Q	3rd Q	4th Q	OT	Final
Detroit Lions	@Jmjacobs	Pro	3-4	0	0	7	0	0	7
Chicago Bears	@PoopyRhinoPickle	Air Raid	3-4	3	0	7	3	0	13

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Clock times look kinda weird here. Not sure what 1:9 was supposed to be, but burning a full minute off the clock with a completed pass and a fair caught punt is interesting

[Piercewise1]

NFL Week 1

 

1. Box Score Incorrect

 

 

Safety in play-by-play is not reflected in the box score:

 

 

2. Play Calling / 4th Down Logic

 

 

Late in the 1st half Pittsburgh attempts a 4th and long deep in their own territory. They fail to convert and give up a touchdown before halftime.

[Jieret]

CFB Week 2 UCLA @ WMU

 

2nd Quarter safety in the Play-by-play is not reflected in the box score. Furthermore, even though WMU kicked off afterwards, the description suggests a defensive TD instead of a safety.

[smackemz]

I have to check version history, but I believe my 4th and long was set to 0 also.

[alexfall862]

Week 2 Nebraska Colorado game ended on a defensive penalty.

 

[DarthJarJar]

Week 2 New Mexico vs SMU

 

It looks like my OLB had a pick 6 that was counted as a safety?

 

[DarthJarJar]

Week 2 New Mexico vs SMU

 

My team scored a TD as time expired in the 2nd Quarter. At the start of the 3rd, SMU kicked off because they started the game with the ball. Immediately after the return my team kicked off to them.

 

[DarthJarJar]

Week 2 New Mexico vs SMU

 

My QB throws an INT but we keep the ball.

 

[Piercewise1]

NCAA Week 2, Friday night: BGSU throws an INT but keeps the ball. No fumbles recorded for OSU in box score.

 

[alexfall862]

NFL Week 3 Sunday Noon, Den v Ten: https://www.simfba.com/index.php?threads/week-3-sunday-noon.3529/

 

Denver Kicker went 1/3 on conversions, 0/2 on kicks, and then this is an additional missed kick that was blocked by his own player - but wasn't registered as a missed kick in the statline. The rest of the kicks are accounted for in the play-by-play.

 

Unsure if this is a counting issue for the boxscore or something else is supposed to happen on this play, since it says our own backup C blocked the kick(!?). Was it supposed to register as something else or can your own players do that?

 

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CFB Week 3 Thursday Night, TEMP v MISS: https://www.simfba.com/index.php?threads/week-3-thursday.3561/

 

Box score does not show OT scores

 

Ole Miss attempted a FG despite being down by a TD in OT.

 

[Jieret]

Week 3 Friday Night, Washington @ WMU.

 

Play-by-play shows the WASH QB getting sacked by WMU for a safety right before halftime, but the 2 points are given to UW and they get the ball kicked to them. The safety does not show up in the box score.

[smackemz]

Week 3 Friday - West Virginia at Army

 

Army FB Lamar Smith is credited with a fumble, but no one on WVU is credited with a force fumble. There is also no mention of a Lamar Smith fumble in the play by play.

 

[Ricky Campbell]

27	34	4	1:20	PNST	3	7	14 PNST	Pass	QB Derrick Marshall is sacked by DT Manny Pimentel and DE Shawn Broadway for -14 yards. . Safety.
27	36	4	1:14	PNST	N/A	N/A	35 PNST	Kickoff	K Alfred Cishek kicks for 57 yards. Fielded at the 8 yardline by RB Vontae KnebelRB Vontae Knebel returns the ball 33 yards. Ran out of bounds.
27	36	4	1:3	STAN	1	10	41 STAN	Pass	QB Kendall Johnson complete to WR Carlos McManus for 0 yards. Tackled by CB Clayton Stephens.
27	36	4	0:27	STAN	2	10	41 STAN	Run	RB Tyler Stallworth carries for 6 yards. Tackled by DE Pat Smith.

 

Final score says 34-27 Stanford over Penn St but there was a safety that did not register on the scoreboard towards the end of the game.

[smackemz]

Folks have mentioned several more examples of this happening. A team going for 4th and long in their own territory near the end of the first half.

 

Oregon game 1

Utah State/Tennessee Week 3

[Minnow]

A couple things happened in the MINN ND game

 

MINN

Robert Moronta

DT

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Here we see my DT get credited for a FF and it was recovered by my ILB Reggie Gordon but no where in the play by play does a fumble happen for ND nor does ND have a fumble loss in their stats.

 

0	0	1	13:29	MINN	3	10	50	Pass	QB Adrian Johnson intercepted by FS Le'Raven Simonson returned to 0 yards from the LOS. intended for WR Doug Rowe.
0	0	1	13:9	MINN	4	10	50	Punt	P Larry Anzalone punts for 55 yards. Touchback

Here it shows that I threw an interception, but it looks like it was ruled an incomplete pass. The player got credited for an interception, but somehow I kept possession of the ball to be able to Punt.

[JC.]

Lost 24-21 according to game report - https://www.simfba.com/index.php?threads/week-3-friday.3555/#post-13314

 

But interface is saying I won 24-21 (not sure whats up with the contrast of the screengrab but you get the point)

 

[TuscanSota]

This looks like an issue in regard to who the home team and away team were. I'll fix this up

[TuscanSota]

Done

[smackemz]

The interface is showing Kansas State as 3-1, but I'm fairly certain they are 4-0

 

[smackemz]

 

I posted a screenshot of the thing discussed on discord because it was the easiest way for me to share.

 

On 3rd and 12 the offense throws an incompletion, but also has a penalty for offensive pass interference making it 3rd and 22.

 

Irl the defense would decline that penalty because it would have been 4th and long and the offense was backed up in their own territory. Not sure if the sim has logic on declining penalties when it makes sense, but this is one of those times.

[Pumph]

A few things from PBP:

24	20	3	8:8	HAWI	1	10	28 HAWI	Run	RB Richard Bianchi carries for 6 yards. Tackled by DE Rymer Kingsale. PENALTY: Illegal Double-Team Block OG Jalen Baylis
24	20	3	7:45	HAWI	1	14	24 HAWI	Run	RB Richard Bianchi carries for 7 yards. Tackled by DT Matt Lutz.

 

The only times a "double-team block" are illegal would be on a kickoff return (Illegal Wedge) or a high-low or low-high block in combination (Chop Block). In both cases, these are 15-yard penalties. Here, there appears to be a 4-yard penalty enforcement. The only way with penalty would wind up being a 4-yard difference from the previous spot would be if the illegal block occurred 11 yards downfield and the run ended there or beyond. And chop blocks NEVER occur downfield. They only happen at the LOS or backfield. Here, it was a 6-yard gain. So, it would be impossible for the foul to be enforced from the Hawaii 39-yard line.

 

38	34	4	5:41	SDSU	1	10	40 SDSU	Pass	QB Hung-Chih Anderson incomplete. Intended for TE Kahlil Gohara. PENALTY: Defensive Holding ILB J.P. Frare
38	34	4	5:21	SDSU	1	10	45 SDSU	Pass	QB Hung-Chih Anderson complete to WR Kevin Smith for 0 yards. Tackled by CB Joey Benjamin.

 

In college football, Defensive Holding of an eligible receiver is a 10-yard penalty and automatic first down (starting in 2022, even if there is no forward pass that crosses the line of scrimmage) But it's been 10 for many years.